Bats, balls, uniforms and yellowed clippings decorate the doughnut shop and the trophy soon will come out of the vault. He learned to pitch lefty in order to strengthen his left hand and arm after he lost the use of his right hand for a few years as a child. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. Jamey Bumbalo June 2, 2006 Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. snook Dianna Jeanneh Jones 6'1", 170???? August 7, 2002 Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the Mr. Sparkle December 13, 2007 After one year in New York Lolich retired. The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. (thankfully returning in '81). 6'1", 170???? September 29, 2007 He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. Raymond Malcuit body would be a pretty slender person. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. He pitched very good ball for you. Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? Hey Mets Fan, Lolich never asked to be traded to New York. November 12, 2006 June 30, 2019 Lolich was a fine pitcher. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. TimesMachine is an exclusive benefit for home delivery and digital subscribers. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? December 20, 2019 Cut him some slack. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Mickey liked his doughnuts. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. Stu Baron Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. As it is, he was traded to a team with a set of already existent aces- Seaver and Koosman. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Lolich's big-league debut came May 12, 1963, in a 9-3 Detroit loss to the Cleveland Indians. If he had finished his career in Detroit, he probably would have been elected to the Hall Of Fame, with perhaps two more seasons of 15 wins. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. We are going all the way!" You can't trade Rusty Staub without instantly improving team speed". In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. He still knew how to pitch but had no run support to get him a winning record. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. Read about Andrew Feustel LOHS Class of 1983. Man, those pitches were big ones. So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. etc. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. May 7, 2013 And complaining about how fat he was? The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Bob P Mickey Lolich so despised the Mets experience that he sat home and ate donuts for a year rather than play again in New York. Mickey loved his Harley. Our visitors have submitted thousands of thoughts and memories of the Mets and the games they've played. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. I remember that the Daily News at the time would have a one-page section on Sunday that showed some of the athletes with their families away from the ballpark. And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. support. December 20, 2019 The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. senor ortiz My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. senor ortiz As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. He later came back to play for the Padres. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. Raymond Malcuit eddiek April 23, 2003 Other than some one saying he ate donuts rather than come back to NY, does anyone know the real reason why he didn't pitch in 77? Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978). July 15, 2016 Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Two quick points that haven't been mentioned:- It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. Donut Shoppe Patron =Chuck= Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Having this claim (in addition to his World Series MVP) is definitely worthy of the Hall of Fame. Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. etc. The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. But Don Grant was bananas, and he took the first decent offer he received. A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Joe The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. May 6, 2003 In one of his best games as a Met, hefty lefty Lolich (no doubt the prototype for David Wells), tossed 8 innings, allowing 8 hits and 2 walks while striking out 4, the only run scoring on a fourth-inning groundout by a young Dave Parker.Alas, with the Mets historically typical poor run support, Lolich left, trailing 1-0, for pinch hitter Mike Phillips, who fanned for the 2nd out of the ninth, before singles by Ed Kranepool (batting for Leon Brown) and Bruce Boisclair and a walk to John Milner loaded the bases for Joe Torre. El 14 de septiembre, Adam Wainwright y Yadier Molina rompieron el rcord en toda la historia de MLB de la mayor cantidad de aperturas con 325 como batera, superando a Mickey Lolich y Bill Freehan. Robert June 30, 2019 As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." November 12, 2006 But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. Baseball burnt him out. I find it odd that he didn't play in 1977. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. Baseball burnt him out. Ramblin' Pete And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. support. He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. April 6, 2012 He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Staub a great fielder with a great arm? Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. December 20, 2019 This has never happened before? Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. Mickey pitched to a poor 8-13 record but he also had a 3.22 ERA which is pretty damn good. I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! Two quick points that haven't been mentioned:- It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. 3-time AL All-Star (1969, 1971 & 1972) 1968 World Series MVP AL Wins Leader (1971) AL Innings Pitched Leader (1971) AL Strikeouts Leader (1971) AL Complete Games Leader (1971) AL Shutouts Leader (1967) So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. September 12, 2002 No contest. It would appear that the one party who was jobbed in the deal was Lolich himself. And Rusty Staub? He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. Shari feat fan When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. August 11, 2015 My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Bob P When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. =Chuck= As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. 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